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"Charles' PR issued a statement that Camilla would be styled as Princess Consort."

If you believe that they have any intention of denying Camilla the rights of a queen, I've got a bridge to sell you. That was a ruse to keep people quiet while Camilla was gradually introduced to the public. Indeed Parliament (the final authority on succession) has pronounced that Camilla will be queen. In any case as her current title confirms, it does not really matter what she is called. She is a full consort to Charles and enjoys all the attendant privileges.  It is a bit like saying you are not Elizabeth but you are Lizzy.
I have always believed Queen Victoria was a third rate mum. She could churn them out but never could really look after them. All her children were traumatized by her constant put-downs, bullying and generally controlling behavior. It is rare to find a great monarch who is a good parent too. The Hanoverians (including the present ruling house) are notorious for getting on badly with their successors. The Tudors simply murdered or tried to murder their potential successors.
Diana Princess of Wales / Re: Books on the honeymoon
« Last post by royalanthropologist on Today at 12:06:14 PM »
Sometimes Charles' behavior makes me shake my head :no:. What kind of man brings hard literature to his honeymoon. I mean, really??? That is just ridiculous. Honeymoons are for knowing each other...especially in the Biblical sense. They are not a reading opportunity. You can take books for holiday but in my case I end up not reading a single one as I am busy exploring the landscapes.
Diana Princess of Wales / Re: Books on the honeymoon
« Last post by TLLK on Today at 08:13:23 AM »
This couple were just too too different to ever be a true meeting of minds, IMHO.
I absolutely agree and for this reason I doubt that their marriage would have survived. In the end I don't believe that they'd ever be happy with each other.
I would say that the monarchy never really changes even if they put out PR to the effect that they have modernized. There is a rather unfortunate earl who mentioned his genealogical superiority to the Tudors (Welsh farmers). He soon lost his head.

 Going off topic here. Poor Teddy Neville was dealt a tragic life indeed. He lost parents, maternal aunt and later his protector/maternal uncle at a young age and then was imprisoned for most of his life.

Diana Princess of Wales / Re: Books on the honeymoon
« Last post by Curryong on Today at 07:39:44 AM »
^ Again an example of Charles and Diana not knowing each other very well, IMO. Yes of course Charles had a perfect right to bring a selection of favourite books with him on his honeymoon, although joining Diana at some deck activities like deck tennis or quoits would have been more interactive than a solitary activity like reading, I would have thought.

However, most couples when they first get together discuss personal interests and hobbies and what reading material, music, films, TV shows they like. If Diana in the early stages had expressed an interest in the life and philosophies of Laurens Van der Post or Freud then they would have already had some discussions on it had their courtship been a normal one. Instead there were a few dates (and heaven knows what they did talk about when alone during that time) and then an engagement.

Van der Post's philosophies are not something most twenty year olds would be interested in to be honest (I know I'm generalising here) but this seems to me to be a case of Charles, as an older man, fondly imagining that he could mould Diana's mind so she could share his interests and inspirations. If he had known her better Charles would have realised her mind didn't absorb abstract philosophies very well and would have left well alone.

That's not saying that Diana was an ignorant or unintelligent person. I believe she was extremely interested in her fellow humans beings, but she was instinctual not intellectual in her thought processes. This couple were just too too different to ever be a true meeting of minds, IMHO.
Diana Princess of Wales / Re: Books on the honeymoon
« Last post by TLLK on Today at 06:43:01 AM »
^^^I don't have an issue with him bringing the books for his own enjoyment if he also spent time with her participating in activities that they both liked.  However he did expect his wife to read them and participate in discussion with him on the subject matter. Had Diana indicated that she had an interest in Sir Van der Post's work then she could have joined him, but AFAIK she didn't share his interest in reading material.
Diana Princess of Wales / Books on the honeymoon
« Last post by LouisFerdinand on Today at 06:02:46 AM »
On his honeymoon with Princess Diana aboard the yacht Britannia, Prince Charles brought a novel by Sir Laurens van der Post. Seven books came on the honeymoon.     
Should Charles have brought the books?     
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Albert Edward, Prince of Wales was over fifty years old before Queen Victoria told him anything of cabinet proceedings.
John Knox, the Reformation leader, preached the sermon at James VI's coronation as King of Scotland. This established James' credentials as a Protestant monarch.
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