Author Topic: Taliban Target Harry: 'We Will Use All Our Power To Kill Or Capture The Prince' (Read 1059 times)

Orchid · « **on:** February 10, 2012, 05:25:50 PM »

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The 27-year-old Apache attack helicopter pilot (pictured) is expected to fly missions out of Camp Bastion on a four-month tour of duty, according to Ministry of Defence sources.

It's a double edged sword. On the one-hand Harry is trying to develop a career outside of the royal family and serve his country but in so doing he is potentially putting others in danger - a danger that would not exist in his absence. It's a tricky situation.

Eri · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2012, 05:37:50 PM »

What about the danger he is in?

Orchid · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2012, 05:44:24 PM »

Don't pull faces. It's not necessary.

I'm saying it's a difficult situation to gage. Harry's wanting to serve his country (as I said above) yet with that comes extra dangers for his colleagues. There's no disregard for Harry in this thinking just a wider consideration of the complications.

Wilkat · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2012, 07:00:34 PM »

Orchid.

I hope the war ends sooner than we are told it might and Harry can devote his time to his causes.

memememe · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2012, 07:27:20 PM »

Harry won't leave the army just because the war ends. He is the second son, isn't needed to be a full-time royal so I expect him to remain in the army for the next 20 years with part-time, occasional royal duties - like Andrew did in the 80s and 90s. There will be other wars and peacekeeping duties for Harry over the years.

What this situation is highlighting is that in the future royal men will have to look for other careers. It costs way too much to train them to have them sit safely at home while others serve.

It has cost the British taxpayers millions of pounds to train Harry and he will have to repay that money by actually serving.

Sure the Taliban will target him but they won't have to do that only in Afghanistan. They can easily get at him in Britain as security around the royals is pathetic - one or two bodyguards who can't protect anyone against a determined gunman or bomber.

Eri · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2012, 07:35:38 PM »

Quote from: Orchid on February 10, 2012, 05:44:24 PM

Don't pull faces. It's not necessary.

I'm saying it's a difficult situation to gage. Harry's wanting to serve his country (as I said above) yet with that comes extra dangers for his colleagues. There's no disregard for Harry in this thinking just a wider consideration of the complications.

Well you never mentioned how HE IS A TARGET you only said how he is putting others in danger when the only person who in any REAL danger here is HARRY let us not forget this... I am getting a lot of disregard for Harry's life in this thread and I am shocked given that this is supposed to be his fan board

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Harryforlife25 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2012, 07:41:52 PM »

Calm down guys this is the usual drama the tabloids like to unleash on Harry we don't know where or when he is going to serve for all we know they could sent him to Mars ...@ memememe Prince Charles has only two sons in the feature it will be him and The Duchess ,Will and Kate and Harry and his wife so I am willing to bet you he will be a full time Royal because Charles didn't have 4 children like The Queen and he is downsizing the Monarchy so Harry will be a full time Royal...as for the Talibans they don't have a problem wit Harry going out clubbing in London they have a problem with him going there to fight them .

Macrobug · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2012, 07:42:51 PM »

Eri, this not a fan board. This is a topic to discuss How the Taliban plan to target Harry. Everyone -> Discuss , debate and express your opinion with the other posters. But don't make it personal and don't be disrespectful to the other posters.

Macrobug, Moderator.

Lothwen · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2012, 09:02:57 PM »

IMO, the Taliban is saying that to get attention from the media. If the Taliban had said "We want to kill [unkown person] " it wouldn't be news.

That being said, Harry is in a unique position here. If he doesn't go to serve he faces criticism for "using the tax payer's money" to train to be an Apache warrior without seeing battle. If he does go, he gets criticized for potentially placing others in danger because his unit would be targeted more. So while Harry would already have to be concerned with the safety of his men, now he has to be even more concerned because of his "accident of birth."

Harryforlife25 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2012, 09:09:54 PM »

I think people should take a minute and take into consideration Harry is the target and that no one (no matter how expensive his training was) wants him in the hands of Talibans or worse killed so he is getting "special" treatment and they will think twice before sending him in the hands of the Talibands heck...he might end up not going at all but being sent somewhere more save for him (and his fellow soldiers) and I think it would be for the best ...other than that I don't get why all this "he is getting special treatment " thing isn't directed at William too God knows he ain't that "special" given Harry , Andrew and his girls but no one seems to mind he will never see action somehow that is never mentioned

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memememe · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2012, 09:59:25 PM »

Quote from: Harryforlife25 on February 10, 2012, 07:41:52 PM

memememe Prince Charles has only two sons in the feature it will be him and The Duchess ,Will and Kate and Harry and his wife so I am willing to bet you he will be a full time Royal because Charles didn't have 4 children like The Queen and he is downsizing the Monarchy so Harry will be a full time Royal...as for the Talibans they don't have a problem wit Harry going out clubbing in London they have a problem with him going there to fight them .

Charles does have three siblings who will be working as full-time royals for the next 20 or so years. The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester are also about the same age as Charles and Camilla (only a few years older) so also can keep working for 10 - 15 years. As the royal family ages William and Kate will have to step up but Harry won't probably be needed for 20 or so years. Charles knows what his son wants to do - and that is serve in the military in ways that he himself couldn't do and nor can William. Andrew had the chance to spend 20 years in the navy - and his was the second son so Harry will also be able to do that, if he wants to do so.

Cutting back the size of the royal family also means cutting back the number of engagements - from about 4000 a year to fewer than 2000 - so Harry won't be needed for years and years full-time.

Currently Charles is doing over 500 as it Anne with Andrew about 400. Edward and Sophie can also increase their duties to pick up some from the older royals and William and Kate will need to step up as well to about 500+ each per year.

The Queen only had one sibling so she needed her cousins to step in. Her father only had two surviving working siblings while Charles has three. That is one extra person to what the Queen had at the start of her reign just there.

wannable · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2012, 10:15:17 PM »

And the Taliban is not Prince Harry's target?! The allied forces are in Afghanistan to contain the terrorist groups.

Orchid · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2012, 10:35:54 PM »

Quote from: Eri on February 10, 2012, 07:35:38 PM

Quote from: Orchid on February 10, 2012, 05:44:24 PM
Don't pull faces. It's not necessary.

I'm saying it's a difficult situation to gage. Harry's wanting to serve his country (as I said above) yet with that comes extra dangers for his colleagues. There's no disregard for Harry in this thinking just a wider consideration of the complications.
Well you never mentioned how HE IS A TARGET you only said how he is putting others in danger when the only person who in any REAL danger here is HARRY let us not forget this... I am getting a lot of disregard for Harry's life in this thread and I am shocked given that this is supposed to be his fan board ...

The thread mentions he is a target. I didn't think I needed to repeat it as it's the dominant point in the topic.

Yet I think you're overlooking the completeness of my post. Yes, I'm saying that Harry's presence adds additional risks for his colleagues because Harry is a prime target for the Taliban and his presence increases the risks for his colleagues by virtue of who he is. Within this I'm making an inference to his susceptibility even if it's not explicitly stated. But I'm also acknowledging the importance for Harry to serve his country and develop his career. Hence I said it's a double edged sword: on the one hand he needs to serve and on the other not only is he at risk but his colleagues risks are augmented as a result of his presence.

But I couldn't agree with your statement that Harry is the only one who is in any real risk. Every soldier is at risk in a very real way.

wannable · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2012, 10:40:20 PM »

The Prince makes it a more valuable price for the Taliban, but in general they would wish to blitz all Apache Helicopters, this is the best allied human enemy target the allied forces have for the kind of warfare in Afghanistan.

Very effective in Libya.

Macrobug · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2012, 10:49:14 PM »

If the Taliban attack Harry, every other person in close proximity is also in danger. Any offensive will not be a precision attack - it will be designed to take out as many people as possible.

But we are assuming that the Taliban would even know which soldier IS Harry. This is frontier fighting on the part of the Taliban. Booby traps, grenade launchers.....

I really think that any statement from the Taliban is more posturing than anything.

sophiechloe · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:09:29 PM »

I agree Macrobug!

Harry's life is no more valuable than the next person. Prince or no Prince.

wannable · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:13:21 PM »

Reality is there are stories of abandoned hero's behind the enemy line, no plans to recover. If Harry gets captured, I'm sure the U.K. will safeguard his return whatever it takes.

Lothwen · « **Reply #17 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:26:00 PM »

Quote from: wannable on February 10, 2012, 10:40:20 PM

The Prince makes it a more valuable price for the Taliban, but in general they would wish to blitz all Apache Helicopters, this is the best allied human enemy target the allied forces have for the kind of warfare in Afghanistan.

Very effective in Libya.

I agree wannabe. The Taliban's goal will be to destroy any Allied forces in Afghanistan. Capturing (or killing) Harry would be a coup, but they're not going to limit their resources to it

Lindelle · « **Reply #18 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:32:25 PM »

Quote from: wannable on February 10, 2012, 11:13:21 PM

Reality is there are stories of abandoned hero's behind the enemy line, no plans to recover. If Harry gets captured, I'm sure the U.K. will safeguard his return whatever it takes.

Actually, the reality is that every man and woman that goes out there are hero's behind the enemy line.

wannable · « **Reply #19 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:39:00 PM »

Yes, but there are cases of soldiers abandoned 'behind' the enemy line, no one gets abandoned in front of the enemy line. So if Harry gets captured, the Taliban usually show a video of the prisoner of war, some of them never come back home, the allied forces take the decision of not recovering their soldier, with Harry its a complete different level.

Lothwen · « **Reply #20 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:40:51 PM »

I agree with Wannabe. I had a classmate who was captured behind enemy lines, and a videotape was made, and the US government decided the only time to try to get him was after he had been killed. If Harry got captured, it would be completely different

sophiechloe · « **Reply #21 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:44:50 PM »

Of course, but that is so very wrong IMO. If he wants to be treated the same as any other Soldier, He should be treated the same as any other soldier.

Lothwen · « **Reply #22 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:47:55 PM »

I doubt it is Harry who asks for that special attention.

Orchid · « **Reply #23 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:50:23 PM »

Yes, he may not request it but exceptions would be given to recover/protect him despite the moral argument for equality.

sophiechloe · « **Reply #24 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:51:50 PM »

Lothwen : I'm sure that priviledge came with him

But, but, but, it is wrong, he is there to serve and take the rough with the smooth!