Why is Princess Caroline still married to Prince Ernest Augustus of Hanover?

[Yale]

I hear the guy is a jerk and a cheat.  Does having the title of Her Royal Highness mean that much to her over HSH?

[sara8150]

Princess Caroline not plans divorces from him yet but says she dont spoke him for 2 years rounds due Ernest had affair mystery woman in Thailand but Princess Caroline is still HSH since she birth till present..

[Yale]

Princess Caroline not plans divorces from him yet but says she dont spoke him for 2 years rounds due Ernest had affair mystery woman in Thailand but Princess Caroline is still HSH since she birth till present..

She is not HSH anymore, at least not while she is still married to Prince Ernest and therefore she uses his title of HRH, the female version.

[sara8150]

Princess Caroline not plans divorces from him yet but says she dont spoke him for 2 years rounds due Ernest had affair mystery woman in Thailand but Princess Caroline is still HSH since she birth till present..

She is not HSH anymore, at least not while she is still married to Prince Ernest and therefore she uses his title of HRH, the female version.

thanks tell me

[Trudie]

I wonder if this marriage was recognised in the Catholic Church?. Her first marriage to Junot was annulled sometime in the '90's a few years after the death of her second husband though that marriage was not recognised. I would think in the case of divorce she might still retain the HRH but again it makes one wonder if it is religious or if it really is a superficial title if it is the latter I really feel sorry for her since HRH is cold comfort to having a life and peace of mind.

[sara8150]

I wonder if this marriage was recognised in the Catholic Church?. Her first marriage to Junot was annulled sometime in the '90's a few years after the death of her second husband though that marriage was not recognised. I would think in the case of divorce she might still retain the HRH but again it makes one wonder if it is religious or if it really is a superficial title if it is the latter I really feel sorry for her since HRH is cold comfort to having a life and peace of mind.

Caroline's first marriages Princess Caroline's first husband was Philippe Junot (b. 19 April 1940), a Parisian banker. They were married civilly in Monaco on 28 June 1978, religiously on 29 June 1978 and divorced on 9 October 1980, without having had issue. In 1992, the Roman Catholic Church granted the princess a canonical annulment.

Princess Caroline was briefly engaged to Robertino Rossellini, son of Roberto Rossellini and actress Ingrid Bergman, before her second marriage.

Caroline's second marriages to Her second husband was Stefano Casiraghi (8 September 1960 – 3 October 1990), the sportsman heir to an Italian industrial fortune. They were married in Monaco on 29 December 1983, and had three children:
Andrea Albert Pierre Casiraghi, born 8 June 1984
Charlotte Marie Pomeline Casiraghi, born 3 August 1986
Pierre Rainier Stefano Casiraghi, born 5 September 1987

The two younger children are named for their maternal great-grandparents, Princess Charlotte of Monaco and Prince Pierre of Monaco, whilst Andrea was named for a childhood friend of his father's. Stefano Casiraghi was killed in a speed-boating accident in 1990, aged 30 years.

Caroline's third and present husband is Ernst August Prinz von Hanover the dynastic head of the House of Hanover and great-grandson of the last reigning duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg, Ernest August II, duke of Cumberland, a great-grandson of British King George III.

Caroline and Ernst August V married in Monaco on 23 January 1999. He had divorced his previous wife, Chantal Hochuli, in September 1997. (She had previously been a friend of Princess Caroline).[3]

Princess Caroline and her third husband have one child together:
Princess Alexandra Charlotte Ulrike Maryam Virginia of Hanover, born 20 July 1999 in Vöcklabruck, Austria.

Her husband's family titles had been abolished by the Weimar Republic in 1918, along with all royal and noble German titles. Neither she nor her husband (whose legal name is Ernst August Prinz von Hannover) has any royal rank in the German Federal Republic, but Monaco recognizes her German royal titles and her style as a Royal Highness.

On 11 January 1999, shortly before Caroline and Ernst's wedding, his distant cousin Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom issued this Order-in-Council, "My Lords, I do hereby declare My Consent to a Contract of Matrimony between His Royal Highness Prince Ernst August Albert of Hanover, Duke of Brunswick-Luneburg and Her Serene Highness Princess Caroline Louise Marguerite of Monaco...". Without the Royal Assent, the marriage would have been void in Britain, where the groom's family owned substantial property, because Ernst August is subject to the Royal Marriages Act 1772. Likewise, the Monégasque court officially notified France of Caroline's contemplated marriage to Prince Ernst August and received assurance that there was no objection, in compliance with Article 2 of the 1918 Franco-Monégasque Treaty.[4]

As of September 2009, it is reported that she has separated from Ernst and returned to live in Monaco.[5] In January 2010, photos emerged of Ernst kissing a woman who was not identified as Caroline, leading press to speculate that the couple are divorcing.

i think Caroline need respect her private marriages years..

[blackprincess92]

really didnt she cheat with Ernest in the first place and that was her best friend's husband......she cant get mad at a guy who showed his true colors to her in the first place..thats how they got to this point.

[Blue Clover]

Sara,
Great summary about Caroline's marriages!  :thumbsup:

[leogirl]

I wonder if this marriage was recognised in the Catholic Church?. Her first marriage to Junot was annulled sometime in the '90's a few years after the death of her second husband though that marriage was not recognised. I would think in the case of divorce she might still retain the HRH but again it makes one wonder if it is religious or if it really is a superficial title if it is the latter I really feel sorry for her since HRH is cold comfort to having a life and peace of mind.

No, it wasn't recognized by the Catholic Church. They never got married religiously, and Chantal is still living, and more importantly was still living at the time of their wedding. The Catholic Church presumes non-Catholic marriages to be valid, and since he did not get an annulment, he is still married to Chantal in the eyes of the Church. Which means Caroline is unmarried (first marriage annuled in 1992, second marriage wasn't recognized because Stefano died in 1990 before they could get married religiously) and is free to remarry if she so chooses. Also, marriages between at least one Catholic that take place outside the Church and without a dispensation from a priest are not considered valid. That is why you usually need to bring in a marriage license to your Church wedding, or in Albert's case he has a civil wedding one day and a religious wedding the next.

I have no idea why she is still married to him. He is a cheater and her marriage isn't recognized by her Church anyway! I think it's about titles. She is used to being first lady of Monaco and her son was in line to be the Prince. She is also the eldest sibling. I think she wants to outrank her younger brother, the reigning Prince. It's a competitive thing. She is "royal highness" and he is "serene highness." And I'm not sure how well she's going to deal with Charlene being the new Princess, and her sons and daughter being displaced in line by their children. Charlene is only 33 and still young enough to have kids.

Is it for Alexandra? Her parents are separated anyway. I don't think a divorce will change her situation much, except she won't have to be embarrassed that daddy is cheating on mummy anymore.

[Trudie]

Your points are very valid Leogirl. I never thought about her trying to outrank her brother. Perhaps she is jealous because as the eldest sibling she feel entitled to be the sovereign and by acquiring and keeping the HRH she is higher in the pecking order as HRH as opposed to HSH.

[Yale]

Your points are very valid Leogirl. I never thought about her trying to outrank her brother. Perhaps she is jealous because as the eldest sibling she feel entitled to be the sovereign and by acquiring and keeping the HRH she is higher in the pecking order as HRH as opposed to HSH.

The only reason she says married to him is so that she can keep the HRH and out rank her brother and his wife to be.

[memememe]

On 11 January 1999, shortly before Caroline and Ernst's wedding, his distant cousin Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom issued this Order-in-Council, "My Lords, I do hereby declare My Consent to a Contract of Matrimony between His Royal Highness Prince Ernst August Albert of Hanover, Duke of Brunswick-Luneburg and Her Serene Highness Princess Caroline Louise Marguerite of Monaco...". Without the Royal Assent, the marriage would have been void in Britain, where the groom's family owned substantial property, because Ernst August is subject to the Royal Marriages Act 1772.

Ernst didn't need the permission of Queen Elizabeth to marry.  He is clearly exempt under the terms of the Royal Marriages Act 1772.

Those who are exempt are the descendents of British princesses who married into foreign royal houses and there is no doubt that Queen Victoria's eldest daughter was such a princess.  As Ernst is a direct descendent of Princess Victoria, The Princess Royal and later Empress Frederick of Germany he and his descendents are completely exempt from the RMA.  Had he married without consent it wouldn't have affected his legal claim to territory or the rights of his daughter to be in the line of succession.

The Hannovers have continued to ask permission to marry from tradition but not from any legal necessity.

Ernst's descent from Queen Victoria, which makes him exempt under the RMA is - Victoria - Victoria - Wilhelm II - Victoria Louise - Ernst Augustus IV - Ernst Augustus V.

[Windsor]

memememe,

Although the Prince of Hanover is except from the Royal Marriages Act 1772, the Prince still went ahead and asked Queen Elizabeth II for her official consent for the marriage to take place, and subsequently Her Majesty the Queen granted her permission through the Order-in-Council of 11 January 1999.

[memememe]

memememe,

Although the Prince of Hanover is except from the Royal Marriages Act 1772, the Prince still went ahead and asked Queen Elizabeth II for her official consent for the marriage to take place, and subsequently Her Majesty the Queen granted her permission through the Order-in-Council of 11 January 1999.

That is what I said.

I was commenting on an earlier post that said that he had to seek permission under the RMA when he was exempt from the RMA.

The Hannoverians have continued to ask permission even though they don't need to do so.

[Yale]

Well, I read just the opposite, that because Prince Ernest Augustus is a direct decendant of King George III  or whomever it is that he and his family were bound by that Marriage Act of 1772.

[Windsor]

I must have read your post wrong. Sorry!  :blush: