Duchess of Cambridge Family Holiday in Mustique

[Orchid]

'cockeyed'

When did they say 'dig deep'?  Do you have a link?   

[cinrit]

A few weeks ago, she and William were asking people to "dig deep"   

The job of the Royals as patrons of charities is to influence people to donate, so if William and Kate were asking people to "dig deep" (which, I assume is paraphrasing?), then they were doing their jobs.

Cindy

[Orchid]

It's also their job to practice what they preach.

It's all very well to want to avidly defend and support an institution and it's members but there comes a point when realities (as they are seen by "the people") affect opinion - and rightly so.

[sophiechloe]

^ The interviewer said "you're asking people to dig deep" then Kate and William agreed.  She is just going through the motions.  Kate could not even get her point across - what the hell has she been doing for the last decade ?


However, lead by example - instead of showing up for a photocall and going about your merry way afterwards.

As for your first point - Are they "royals" for sale ? - My Nan would turn in her grave.

[Macrobug]

At the moment, it is hard for me to not be jealous of anyone who is vacationing somewhere warm and sunny.  I don't have a problem with K&W having vacations, but I agree that it may not be the very best time.  But Kate and her family are entitled (like everyone else) to have time with her family.  If this was a gift from her parents then we can't say too much in regards to public monies being spent.

I love it that people in other countries use the same expressions as me here in Canada.   I just told my receptionist that something was "all cockeyed".  Then came on here and read SophieChloe's comment   

[Wilkat]

That Carole, getting herself born in January and celebrating it with her family in Mustique. At least they don't give her a Trooping of The Colour but wait, if Will reads this, who knows?  I forget the name of the poster but Camilla won't be on a skiing holiday because she can't ski and I think Charles has given it up because of his back. I expect Will and Kate will ski when they get a chance and Harry just got back.

[Orchid]

At the moment, it is hard for me to not be jealous of anyone who is vacationing somewhere warm and sunny.  I don't have a problem with K&W having vacations, but I agree that it may not be the very best time.  But Kate and her family are entitled (like everyone else) to have time with her family.  If this was a gift from her parents then we can't say too much in regards to public monies being spent.

Indeed, the timing of the holiday is most likely the crux of criticism for most people: including those who have commented in the online paper sections. I certainly feel it's bad timing in light of the economic times and her 'past'. It's not the best way to start the new year as a royal patron with new charities.

Public money isn't an issue, I feel. I'm sure its been funded by the family privately. The security will be an issue though as that is publicly funded.

That Carole, getting herself born in January and celebrating it with her family in Mustique...

Is there a need to be facetious? 

[Macrobug]

Is the cost of security an issue?  They have security 24/7 whether they are in Mustique or in England.
It would be the price of the ticket for the security to fly that would be an issue if paid for by the public.  But if it came from private funds then again, we can't say much about it.

[sophiechloe]

^ It's an issue for me - for sure  . 

I love it that people in other countries use the same expressions as me here in Canada.   I just told my receptionist that something was "all cockeyed".  Then came on here and read SophieChloe's comment   

I'm the product of my Irish Mum.  She has lots of lovely/strange/quirky sayings - most of which I cannot repeat on here 

[Orchid]

Is the cost of security an issue?  They have security 24/7 whether they are in Mustique or in England.
It would be the price of the ticket for the security to fly that would be an issue if paid for by the public.  But if it came from private funds then again, we can't say much about it.

I was briefly touching upon security as a more general point of contention rather than isolating it to the mustique holiday.

As you say, the costs of travel are potential points of contention, but transparency isn't always forthcoming when it comes to the private/public funding division so I doubt we'll know who paid for what - unless someone can offer a link to some stats and statements 

Of course the counter argument always comes that they don't stop needing protection and from there the snowball rolls and grows....

[sophiechloe]

^ Goodness Orchid - Yet again you bring up a brilliant point.

How do we know what the Middletons paid for!  -  Safe to say, Kate paid for nada - just like the old days 

Does she actually own a purse (I mean a small one that contains real money/card)? or a watch?  - No need for either = before or after marriage. 

[Macrobug]

Maybe let the snowball get bigger and then throw it at them??  That's what I want to do to all those vacaying in the heat while I sit here and shiver.   


Now what would we do without the RF and particularity W&K??  Who would we get to talk and debate about.  A source of never ending entertainment. 


SC - if you use the term "all copacetic"  I will be incredibly impressed and thrilled 

[Orchid]

I know what I'd do without William, Kate and the royal family..... live happily ever after knowing that the UK was now operating under a democracy rather than a type of hereditary autocracy It's one of the reasons why I'm here discussing royalty: because it's relevant to my national identity and politics and it's worthwhile discussing the side of them that isn't represented by royalists 

Maybe let the snowball get bigger and then throw it at them??   

[Wilkat]

At the moment, it is hard for me to not be jealous of anyone who is vacationing somewhere warm and sunny.  I don't have a problem with K&W having vacations, but I agree that it may not be the very best time.  But Kate and her family are entitled (like everyone else) to have time with her family.  If this was a gift from her parents then we can't say too much in regards to public monies being spent.

Indeed, the timing of the holiday is most likely the crux of criticism for most people: including those who have commented in the online paper sections. I certainly feel it's bad timing in light of the economic times and her 'past'. It's not the best way to start the new year as a royal patron with new charities.

Public money isn't an issue, I feel. I'm sure its been funded by the family privately. The security will be an issue though as that is publicly funded.

That Carole, getting herself born in January and celebrating it with her family in Mustique...

Is there a need to be facetious? 

Not at all, I was kidding because of the timing. This trip is supposed to be for Carole's birthday.I was trying to lighten the mood. Sorry to offend because it wasn't my intention.

[Orchid]

I apologise, WillKat   There have been so many thinly veiled facetious comments recently that it becomes hard to distinguish between facetiousness and harmless humour.  It's nice to know you're not a part of this group.

[NotWaitieKatie]

Why is it the responsibility of their POs to prevent people from taking pictures? Is that going to kill or harm them? I think that is an abuse of their (Pos) power. It is their job to keep them safe, from harm/danger, not unpleasantness or inconvenience.

[Orchid]

Hmmm, that's a good point. Does the PO role extend to protection of privacy from photographers?  I'm not sure. On the face of it, it doesn't seem like it ought to.

[cinrit]

Their role is to prevent the photographers from getting too close to whomever they are protecting, not to prevent photos from being taken.  Paparazzi obviously take pictures with no problem, as we've seen pictures of Kate in stores, on the street after shopping, etc., along with her protection officer ... sometimes the protection officer is included in the picture.

Cindy

[naniwi]

...so are there pictures from Mustique? I do not think so, as William and Kate protect their privacy.

[psm]

For all we know the extra measures may be the Mustique management's initiative who want to have them keep coming to their island, and not a request by the Middletons or Royals. After all, this does paint Mustique as the ultimate exclusive private island for vacationing.

[cinrit]

...so are there pictures from Mustique? I do not think so, as William and Kate protect their privacy.

I don't think there have been any pictures from Mustique (yet).  The ones that accompany the articles are taken from other events.

Cindy

[sara8150]

...so are there pictures from Mustique? I do not think so, as William and Kate protect their privacy.

no pictures because paparazzi and media banned in island William and Kate have rightsful for private vacations with her family.

you know what happened on Prince William's mother? paparazzi and media still harassment on Princess Diana lots like 24/7 and no security after divorce from his dad the Prince Charles in 1996 but paparazzi and media still hunting Diana on her last day in St.Tropez,France,USA and Bosnia till she died but paparazzi and media got arrest they bail but UK makes ruled not close the Royals get pictures till publish magazines or not whether Prince William or Catherine chose not publish pictures its their William and Catherine's choice need private vacation..But taboilds and magazines get pictures on his mom lots since 1980's-1997 but paparazzi and media have no rightsful on Diana's privateful and she told paparazzi and media need away and need leave her alone its no laugh matters!! Prince William always knew need have rightsful private vacations they dont intive paparazzi and media remind of his mom and Diana would proud of William banned paparazzi and media no publish magazines till time..Palace and Clarence House have no comment on William and Kate's vacation.

when Diana told paparazzi and media dont get pictures of her boys in 1990's and she got her hands on media and paparazzi and she talk paparazzi and media need leave her and boys alone during vacations and HM Queen very disappointment on Diana's actions.

mostly Royals and non royals have rightsful publish pictures or not due their private matters on vacations from Royals House and non Royals House can publish magazines and newspaper to shown if dont publish magazines and newspaper you need respect that.

trust me

[FanDianaFancy]

Here  we go  again...
YES,  she  can ,  will,  take  big,  vacations.

However,  sophie and others,  no , she  has  not  really  done  anything yet  except  for glam  parties. Glam events.  Traditional  events  like the horse races.
Very easy  things. Co-chair/co-star, for lack  of  a better  word  by  me, with PW.
NO,  she  does  not  have  work  365  days  a  year  or  have  a diary  to  rival that of  PCharles  or  PAnne. No,  Kate,DoC,  does  not  have  to  go trekking  off  to  perilous  places  like  Diana  did.
Kate,DoC  should  do  some  real  meat and potato's , some  deep  charities  by  now  and  right  there  in The UK.

The  perks  of her  life  are  unlimited.  The wealth  she  will  come  into  one  day of jewels,  castles, etc.  are  priceless. No,  really  are  priceless  because these  things  are  worth  so  much  that they are  indeed  priceless.
Already Kate ,DoC,  has  rec'd  items  that  are priceless  just  because they are  hers" Diana's  engagment ring,  jewels  from those  Arabs  for  her  wedding gifts, etc.

The  price  she has  to  pay  is  duty and service  to  her  people  and  to  her country.  Her  price  is  never, NEVER ahving  privacy  on thins  like umm,  when  she and her  husband  do  ahve their  first  child,  the  reporters  will  calculate  the date of  conception  ...where  K adn W were  at  the  date  of conception(  which  castle), place( Wales  or  England).
Who  would want  that  out  about  themselves.

Yes,  talk about  a fishbowl  life. Being a  historic  figure  for  her country.
So yes,  she  can, will,  go  on  high  end vacations  whenever.

Where  is  her  work,  though?

[wannable]

Where  is  her  work,  though? 

In the threads of this board.

[wannable]

To late to edit and add -- I got to admit am loving the royal watcher controversy, Catherine Loves The Cameras previous to Mustique and the After Mustique measures of paparazzi or tourist photography ban, Its Catherine's fault. 

Merged with previous post as poster say's they were too late to do so.