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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2012, 08:13:06 PM »
I'd rather see her out and about visiting hospices, hospitals and shelfters than arriving at "glitzy" events. While these "glitzy" events do happen it would be good to see the other side of royal work: really pitching in to a charity and giving back.
 


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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2012, 08:39:03 PM »
^^ Does that mean someone is paid to sit at a desk and do nothing but go through reader comments for every single article in the paper?  Or are certain articles chosen for moderation?  How (and who) decides which article comments should be moderated before allowing posting?  What makes this person or persons qualified to make the decision?  If this person is not the editor (who surely has more important decisions to make), what makes this person qualified to make the decisions on his/her own?  Who directs them as to what is or isn't allowed to be posted that particular day?  Would a political article be more important than what Kate wore to ... wherever she went the day before?  Are more comments allowed for the articles about Kim Kardashian than are allowed for Kate?  Which comments get read/approved (or not) first?  Unless all of these questions are valid, it would be silly for any newspaper to actually pay someone to do nothing but read comments and make decisions about what is allowed.  There is a forum editor who kinda oversees posts on my local newspaper's online forum, but if there are a couple dozen posts a day, it's a busy day ... and the editor is seldom there, anyway.  I can't imagine how it would work with a newspaper on the level of the Daily Mail.

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2012, 08:41:00 PM »
Sometimes the comments just get plain vicious and they often get red arrowed. Not just talking about comments about Kate but other royals as well. I don't know how many are removed but surprised at some that are truly malevolent are not removed.
 


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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2012, 08:53:39 PM »
Eventually they are removed if there is whatever the minimum they recall and by a certain amount of people pressing the 'abuse' button, which in turn makes the alarm bells ring, waking up the moderator from his/her snooze.

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2012, 09:12:20 PM »
Or certain words trigger a reaction that flags the post?

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2012, 09:23:16 PM »
I think the certain words wouldn't let a post go through.  I've seen what Sandy says, with careful (chosen words) wording one can make a nut hate post.  :shrug: In other words, careful wording without the F word, S word, C word and so forth.

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2012, 11:00:04 PM »
^^  Yep.  All it takes is a slight "misspelling", or an asterisk in the right place.  Spammers used to do it all the time (maybe they still do, but they don't bother with me anymore, lol).

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2012, 02:33:13 AM »
 
What strongly have seemed to me is that there's something terribly wrong or fake about Kate Middleton, and people has more been FEELING it than seeing in a concrete and objective way. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong , but please, don't take me bad, I´m just trying to underestand it, at least a little bit! :wacko:
-"Waity firmly believes "A woman's hair is her glory" and in her case that is true. Growing long hair is her only real achievement to date."... Creepy, so... true!

-..."What a joker. I find it difficult to grasp the fact that how a progressively modern society like the UK, where meritocracy is promulgated, can fall over their feet over a mediocre figure ..."
- "... Yes, our future Queen ( unfortunatley). I can't image us, singing our "God save the Queen" for HER !!!.."

-..."I don't like her and never will, you can push this woman on the public until the moon turns purple, I'll simply never like Kate. Something is phony about her..."

-..."What do Kate Middleton, Katie Price and the TOWIE's have in common? Absolutely nothing - the rest of them have all worked for a living. She's nothing but a glorified Chav.and I am so pleased from the comments on this article that the British public have finally seen her for what she really is. - nothing, nothing.."

-'She's so fake and phoney..."
-..."I doubt the Queen is telling Kate not to work knowing how that will come across to the public, Kate has no one to blame for the negative perception she's perpetuated which was in place long before she married William, if anything I would bet the Queen would rather have the newest member of the family be seen as hardworking, not as some glorified wag."
-..."Wow sounds like hard work. And she chooses her own clothes. My is there no end to her talents?"

-..."not limit "royal duties" to fun events like dressing up and going to film premieres and art shows. If discussion is limited to what she wears and her hair she will appear to have no substance or real work ethic..."
-..."Nice visit to a middle class event...this grl needs a holiday...!"

-...."Wow, big deal! Sounds like a really hard evening's work, fraternising with the arty set!. Does this future Queen have any real intellect?.."

-"Is this really news?
- Gem, I used to think I lived in England but now I'm not so sure..."
-"I am totally agree,we will see tomorrow a number of photos hollywood style of Kate all dressed up with perfectly blow dried hair and smiling inanely in the direction of the photograhers, that is the only thing she does.. very productive..."

-"Barbie is back...............!"
-"...i am a bit disappointed with her at the moment. She is very pretty i am sure, but i find her a bit vain and a bit too self- interested at the moment as oppose to doing anything really worth while with her priviledged position. maybe i am being too harsh, but she seems a bit vacuous, like an earlier poster said. maybe she needs a bit more time to settle in..."
- "...The woman had no intention of working, pre-marriage or post-marriage..."
-"Lots of negative comment here, as usual, recently and I have to agree that Kate has turned out to be a spoilt young woman, quite out of touch. But I can't understand why her "approval ratings" are still high. Or are they fudged?..."
-..."I am so heartily tired of following the privileged life of this young woman, always hoping (in vain - now there's a word!) that she'll show a spark of compassion. She's shy of putting herself out for others, and yet that's her role for the future. And she's not shy by nature - with strutting down the catwalk..."

-.."Kate Middleton is nothing but a posh WAG, William has made a huge mistake, that we've all got to live with!..."

-.."She is a waste of space...goodbye Royal Family, your future is now at an end.....shame !"

-"...not sure tho whether this batch of young royals gets that. In a recession not seeming to do much of use and holidaying alot and generally behaving "entitled" isn't the best diplomacy. I wonder how much Kate and William, and the Middletons, have given consideration to that kind of thing - I get the impression they are extremely conventional people who might not spend alot of time on the wider issues...
-..."Judging by her engagement interview, she comes across as a bit vacuous with no real depth of character. Lovely hair though!..."
-..." She should be more than a red carpet model posing in fashions..."
-"...but as for Prince William he reminds me of his great-uncle Edward who married Mrs Simpson. Rather a weak character who married a dominant woman ..."

-"...She's going to be more interested in the photographers than anything...."
-..."The choice of a good cause is probably endless, but there needs to be a way of showing her ability to want to help and not to just turn up in a new dress, wave and smile...."
-..."She is not known for having any interests apart from marrying Prince William and going on holiday.."
-"...I would be very interested to know her opinion of these artworks, if she has an opinion. In fact, I'd like to know her opinion on something because at the moment she is only a shell with no personality. Maybe that is why people are so distrusting of her motives, it's not good enough to just look good and smile. Once again the royal advisors have failed miserably..."
-..."So she doesn't even have to talk to the public? It's getting a little ridiculous that she never speaks for herself to the public. Are the Royals that worried she will screw up?"
-..."Welcome to another edition of the Daily Kate. Tomorrow's story: the trials of shopping Kate style!..."
-..."DM less articles on this please, I am sick of the Kate and Wills non story.."
-..."The truth of the matter is, she is not there for anything she has personally achieved herself but for who she is married to. If she wasn't with him & even when they were dating there was no interest in this ordinary & quite dull woman. What a difference a prince makes & what a shallow society we really are. This is all faux & rather pointless. Shes about as interesting as she ever was, but now she has propaganda behind her. it won't work on us all. Once workshy, always will be.."
-"...Four hours in a hair salon? What is it that they do to her? It must go beyond my understanding, for I just cannot believe a woman spending ½ working day having her hair done. Maybe she should try ponytails or simple buns, anything that does not take 4 long hours. Is this what Great Britain really wants and needs?..."
-"...Yep, what a joke! You said it DM..."Picture Perfect" - that's all she was there for...to get her photo taken....again. Still not working very hard Duchess Dolittle!!..."
-"...rying too hard to be a princess comes to mind.Diana made it look simple because she was a natural.."
-..."Picture Perfect? hours and hours of getting ready, to spend 1 hour just walk around flicking your hair and smiling..."
-..."I'm not trying to be antagonistic by any means. (It seems like there's a lot of animosity being thrown around here.) I'm just saying, as a representative of Britain, I see where the frustration with her lack of grit, tenacity, and determination is coming from. The comments about her clothes and make-up are very superficial. ...I just would have expected more. I would expect that someone with her means would do more. That's what's disappointing."...
-"...We do have people like Kate in my country: Snooki, Kim, Paris, Britney . . . . - Mary,USA=="
-..."I'm so sick of Kate who shops, goes to hairsalon and then goes on vacations with her family. I don't like her and never will, you can push this woman on the public until the moon turns purple, I'll simply never like Kate. Something is phony about her..."
-..."Her smile reflects her satisfaction at acquiring a lifestyle filled with hair appointments, shopping, parties & holidays. We deserve BETTER!..."
-"...Not an opinion, just an observation. After reading through three pages of mostly negative comments, I'd have to say that after the present Queen goes, the monarchy is going to be in serious trouble."

I've pick up a few comments which reflect something I also think. I've read all of them and can say most or so are negative about Kate, what intrigues me a lot... All that praising of the press...Britain has a free press, isn't it?








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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2012, 02:39:28 AM »
On my local news station lastnight they showed a 5 second shot of Kate getting out of a car (doing her solo act) and then straight to a 3 min segment about Harry.
I think they knew who was doing the more newsworthy job.

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2012, 03:02:56 AM »
Yes, Lindelle, I'm confused, because press' function is to discuss what's going on, only in ditatorial contries it is programmed to only say YES, YES, YES. There's something wrong, of course there was many comments about Lucien Freud's paintings and about monarchy in particular, but the negative comments about Kate Middleton where no doubt more numerous than the praising her!

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2012, 03:19:21 AM »
wessexxfan,
Thanks so much for posting all of those comments, they are very insightful!  :thumbsup:  Someone should pay attention and find away to quickly address these issues with Kate for the sake of the monarchy, it is easy to dismiss them as inconsequential, but that would not be wise IMO.

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2012, 07:04:07 AM »
I think it's too early to say if Kate is "hated" or "beloved" it's only been 10 months  :shrug: but the start hasn't been great and people who didn't like her before she got the Tiara like her even less now and people who like her can only praise her for her hair and what she is wearing if it continues this way it will be a disaster especially WHEN the press ends their honeymoon with her...

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2012, 11:53:39 AM »
Public opinion about Kate is turning. This easing her into the role is just Palace PR for "We can't seem to get her to do anything constructive to help the Monarchy". Prince William and Kate need to realize that the purpose of the press is to inform and if they try to ignore the Press people will think they are trying to hide something. Prince William at his age should have realized by now that the Monarchy needs good press to continue. They are not Private people so have a very limited private life. They seem to want all the perks that go with being Royalty but at the same time want none of the responsibilities.  :wink:
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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2012, 12:14:33 PM »
The posted Daily Mail comments are shallow and superficial.  Not one providing the ideal suggestion to the Firm of what work load should be given to Catherine.

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2012, 12:17:49 PM »
The tabloids in Denamrk is very positive about Catherine and William.

And especially after the Unicef event in Copenhagen together with CP Frederik and Mary.

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2012, 12:23:42 PM »
^ Yes, I can imagine that went down well.

I suspect the palace monitors media/public feedback to all of Kate's engagements and adjust her output accordingly.  I suspect she will start attending fewer evening gown events over the coming months and begin a more focused round of serious patronages linked to hospices/hospitals/rehabilitation programmes etc.  The palace aren't daft. They will respond to any negativity with counter measures to maintain a more balanced image. 

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2012, 12:26:59 PM »
The posted Daily Mail comments are shallow and superficial.  Not one providing the ideal suggestion to the Firm of what work load should be given to Catherine.

I think the comments are reasonable and I think they matter. Public opinion can make or break public figures, celebrities and politicians. What the public (working class or otherwise) think of you should not be referred to as shallow and superficial, it is actually quite the opposite, very powerful!

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2012, 12:31:06 PM »
Totally agree with you, BC!!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2012, 12:35:02 PM »
Shallow and superficial comments like "I don't like her and never will", "phoney, fake, etc" aren't reasonable in my view, no depth in criticising her looks or what an individual feels about her character.

Catherine's programmed visits during the next 30 days to children's hospital units, addiction rehabilitation centre's, the scouts, alleged duos with the QEII and/or the POW shouldn't be claimed as palace monitors counter-acting, because these visits have been reported by the media since the first week of January 2012.

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« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2012, 12:54:50 PM »
I'm sure the media reports will increase as the palace release further details and promote the visits nearer the time.  It's not a stretch to consider a boost in PR to scheduled events in the wake of criticism over the frivolity of past events.

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2012, 01:01:42 PM »
The next event is this coming Tuesday. Cinrit posted, what I consider the best video so far with insightful information from the anchor of said TV station about the NPG visit and next week's Liverpool - Tuesday visit.

The media storm has already signed in to follow her on said schedule, the difference will be enormous,  because this will be her first solo where "voice and video" at all times during the visits will be allowed. 

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2012, 01:02:01 PM »
Shallow and superficial comments like "I don't like her and never will", "phoney, fake, etc" aren't reasonable in my view, no depth in criticising her looks or what an individual feels about her character.

Catherine's programmed visits during the next 30 days to children's hospital units, addiction rehabilitation centre's, the scouts, alleged duos with the QEII and/or the POW shouldn't be claimed as palace monitors counter-acting, because these visits have been reported by the media since the first week of January 2012.

I agree with wannabe.  If the complaints in the Comments section had any real merit, they'd be easier to take seriously.  But comments that put Kate down because she had her hair done, or comparing her to Snooki or Paris Hilton, or comments such as "she's so fake and phony", "I find her a bit too vain", "she seems a bit vacuous", "a shell with no personality", "does this future Queen have any real intellect", only gives the impression that some posters are trying to convince themselves of their beliefs ... they certainly don't give valid reasons for their complaints.  (And yet, these are the kind of comments that are in bold print and underscored.)  One of the comments even complained about her always looking at the photographers and smiling (the opposite of what was posted yesterday as a tweet from a reporter). 

I agree, too, that it's somewhat cynical to think that the only reason Kate would be sent out on engagements is for PR.  This has been planned (as well as being reported on, and posted here) several times several months ago. 

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2012, 01:06:27 PM »
 :hug:  Teenager 'Mean Girls' comments  :happy15:

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2012, 01:09:04 PM »
The rules and expectations governing academic debate and discussion do not apply to public opinion. Reasons and evidence are not a requirement for stating pubic opinion, yet public opinion is extremely powerful and can make or break the careers of the most powerful people.

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Re: Is public opinion against Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge?
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2012, 01:14:25 PM »
I am sure the professionals working in the Firm wouldn't take the above said Daily Mail comments as a point to ponder.

As I said, comments with serious, depth of ideal suggestions related to the new addition will be taken to counter act, but these shallow teenager a la 'Mean Girls' movie rants is laughable.

Matter of factly, usually the firm, any firm counter-acting measures are done when a 'scandal' happens.

No scandal, but the usual royal frivolous, gala, dressy dressy rounds that all senior royal engage in and will and have to continue to do.